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Ginni Rometty discusses the necessity of making unpopular decisions for long-term company endurance. Lex Fridman introduces Rometty, highlighting her 40-year career at IBM, including her role as Chairman, President, and CEO, and her new book 'Good Power'. They discuss the biggest challenges of running a company as large as IBM, emphasizing the difficulty of change over mere operation.
Rometty explains that IBM's enduring core is its commitment to doing things essential to the world, running mission-critical systems for various industries. She notes IBM's transformation into a software and consulting company focused on hybrid cloud and AI. The main challenge for large companies is changing how work gets done, not just what work is done, to overcome bureaucracy and increase speed. This involves reducing management layers and adopting agile methodologies at scale.
Rometty acknowledges that leaders must sometimes be autocratic and make unpopular decisions for the long-term benefit of the company. She discusses the psychological difficulty of fighting tradition and experts, emphasizing the need for a new technology platform and updated skills for the future workforce. Rometty highlights the importance of training and hiring for willingness to learn over traditional qualifications, advocating for a 'skills-first' approach.
Rometty reflects on her personal growth, admitting her past tendency to micromanage and her drive for perfection. She learned to give others control and to be more deliberate in her feedback. Preparation, she explains, is crucial for her to be present and listen effectively in important moments, stemming from her early experiences as a lone woman in engineering school. She discusses the role of hard work, stemming from a challenging upbringing, in providing a sense of capability and a way out of difficult times.
Rometty defines 'good power' as doing hard or meaningful things in a positive way, emphasizing 'how' things are done. Key principles include embracing tension, bridging divides with respect (not fear), and celebrating progress over perfection. She outlines five principles for driving positive change: being in service of something, building belief, knowing what to change and what to endure, focusing on how work is done and skills, and responsible technology. She stresses that good tech involves considering both the upside and downside of innovation.
Rometty discusses the transition from self-focus to serving others, citing a pivotal moment where she realized her role as a role model. She emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with diverse perspectives and people who offer honest feedback to prevent corruption of power. Rometty explains that navigating tensions between shareholder demands and broader societal impact requires common sense and long-term vision, using the example of IBM's semiconductor manufacturing dilemma.
Rometty describes the intense pressure during IBM's major reinvention, including 22 quarters of revenue decline. She highlights the necessary divestitures and investments, such as the acquisition of Red Hat, which laid the foundation for IBM's hybrid cloud strategy. She recounts her personal involvement in the acquisition of PwC Consulting, highlighting the challenges of integrating different business models and company cultures, and the importance of fostering belief and commitment among employees.
Rometty emphasizes passion and perseverance as critical for success, drawing parallels to Thomas Edison's quote about not giving up before success. She reflects on her early love for engineering's logic and problem-solving. Discussion turns to IBM's contributions to AI, including Deep Blue's chess victory and Watson's Jeopardy win. Rometty views Deep Blue as a supercomputing feat and Watson as a humanizing moment for AI, bringing natural language understanding and reasoning to the public consciousness. She underscores the importance of AI ethics, advocating for transparency and responsible deployment.
Rometty addresses imposter syndrome, advising that focusing on the work and the opportunity to make a difference helps overcome self-doubt. She discusses the importance of self-definition, recalling her mother's lesson to 'never let anyone else define you'. Rometty reflects on societal expectations as a woman in leadership and the importance of role models. She shares insights on finding work-life balance, noting that companies will take all you give, and individuals must set boundaries. She also speaks on the value of relationships and mentorship among female leaders.
Rometty concludes by offering advice to young people: ask more questions, be a sponge, and have patience. She emphasizes the importance of leaving things a little bit better than you found them, highlighting the idea of living a life by what you give. She expresses gratitude to Lex Fridman for the conversation and his ability to draw out profound discussions.