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He shares a personal practice of solitary reflection in nature, 'going to meet myself,' and an impactful experience in Dhordo, a remote village, which later inspired the 'Rann Utsav' when he became CM. He recounts the emotional first call to his mother after hoisting the flag in Lal Chowk. He also touches on a profound lesson from his mother: 'Work with intelligence, live with purity'.
The host introduces the podcast, highlighting its focus on entrepreneurship for a 15-40 year old audience. He explains this is his first podcast experience and apologizes for his Hindi, being a South Indian raised in Bangalore.
PM Modi recounts his birth in Vadnagar, Gujarat, a small town that was part of a Gaekwad state. He notes the importance of education in such states, mentioning libraries and schools. He shares an anecdote about a Chinese philosopher, Hiuen Tsang, who lived in his village, and how this fact was later a subject of conversation with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
Modi describes himself as an 'ordinary student' who avoided competitive studies but excelled in extracurricular activities. He talks about his early departure from home, which led to a disconnect with childhood friends and family. He expresses a desire to have reconnected with them when he became CM, but found a gap between his perception and their view of him as CM. He shares his efforts to publicly honor his teachers and reconnect with his family members and those who provided him food during his early Sangh days.
The discussion shifts to the talents required for a politician, differentiating between entering politics and being successful in it. Modi emphasizes dedication, responsibility, being a team player, and a focus on 'Nation First'. He advises aspiring politicians to come with a mission, not ambition, drawing parallels with Mahatma Gandhi's leadership style rooted in his way of life and communication.
Modi addresses the perception that politicians need to be 'thick-skinned' and how he handles criticism. He uses a humorous anecdote about an 'Amdavadi' to illustrate his approach. He discusses the power of social media in a democracy for verifying information and its role in inspiring youth, citing the success of Chandrayaan and Gaganyaan.
Modi acknowledges that he has faced anxiety and restlessness but focuses on his mission and responsibility. He shares his experiences from early political life, like visiting the Godhra incident site shortly after becoming an MLA, and how he detached his emotions to fulfill his duties. He also mentions the Chandrayaan-2 launch setback and how he supported the scientists during that time.
Modi states he has never calculated his life nor planned for his current position, attributing his journey to destiny. He reflects on his childhood aspirations, like joining a military school or Ramakrishna Mission, which were unfulfilled. He highlights the importance of life experiences and remaining outside one's comfort zone, emphasizing that his risk-taking capacity comes from not prioritizing personal gain.
Modi addresses the perception of politics as 'dirty' and expensive. He tells a story about a doctor who successfully contested elections by collecting one rupee from each person, emphasizing the importance of patience and dedication over money. He explains his 'minimum government, maximum governance' vision, focusing on streamlined processes and eliminating unnecessary compliances, rather than reducing personnel. He highlights the impact of 'India Stack' technologies like UPI in direct benefit transfer and promoting financial inclusion.
He shares an anecdote about a prior visit to Taiwan, where he encountered a stereotypical view of India and how he countered it by emphasizing India's technological strength ('playing with a mouse'). He discusses how India's global perception has changed due to its diaspora's achievements and credibility. He reflects on the past, when he predicted India's rise, and expresses his renewed belief that 'it is India's time now'.
Modi discusses India's non-neutral stance in global conflicts, advocating for peace, and how this has increased India's credibility. He shares instances of bringing back Indian nationals from crisis zones, including the Wuhan evacuation during COVID-19, and humanitarian aid to Nepal after an earthquake. He recalls requesting land for a temple in Abu Dhabi, an Islamic country, highlighting the power of soft diplomacy.
He humorously dismisses internet memes about his knowledge of Italian food, stating he is 'not a foodie' and struggles with menus. He mentions his former colleague, Arun Jaitley, as an 'encyclopedia' of food. He reflects on his journey from sitting on the floor as a young politician to his current position, emphasizing that his core identity remains unchanged. He attributes his oratory skills to speaking from experience and genuine emotion, often becoming emotional when discussing the poor.
Modi expresses immense faith in the youth, citing the rise of start-up culture as a point of pride. He discusses the evolution of his terms as PM: the first focused on understanding, the second on past context, and the third on a radical shift towards achieving a developed India by 2047. He envisions an 'Aspirational India' free of problems and discrimination, with full delivery of essentials to its citizens. He also emphasizes preparing a capable team for the future and encourages women and youth to join politics, stressing competence over tokenism. He clarifies that his call to youth is for all parties, not just his own, to foster a new, creative leadership.