Unedited: MGTOW still get pissed off at this question

The speaker recounts asking a MGTOW channel, 'Are gay men MGTOW by default?' a question that always angers them, leading to immediate timeouts and homophobic comments.

The speaker explains his serious intent behind the question: if gay men choose not to engage in sexual or romantic relationships with women, similar to MGTOW's stated principles, why aren't they considered MGTOW? He notes that MGTOW's anger stems from gay men choosing this path not due to women's perceived shortcomings, but a lack of inherent attraction, unlike MGTOW who often cite women's refusal to be submissive.

He acknowledges some common ground between MGTOW and men's rights activists regarding legal issues like divorce settlements and child custody. However, he reiterates that MGTOW's primary reason for cutting off women is their perceived lack of desired behavior, not legal or societal issues.

The speaker highlights the rampant homophobia within MGTOW, noting the common link between homophobia and misogyny. He suggests homophobic individuals often fear being objectified by men in the same way they objectify women, leading to an uncomfortable and sometimes violent reaction.

For over a decade, the speaker has observed the same angry, defensive, and unanswering reactions from MGTOW when posed with his question. He finds continued amusement in their predictable outrage.