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Mark Zuckerberg and Lex Fridman conduct an interview in the metaverse using photorealistic Codec Avatars. They are hundreds of miles apart but feel like they are in the same room. The avatars capture subtle facial expressions and emotions, making the interaction deeply meaningful. They discuss the incredible realism and the profound sense of presence achieved through this technology, highlighting how it feels like 'the future'.
Zuckerberg explains that Codec Avatars are created from detailed scans that build a computer model of an individual's face and expressions. This allows for photorealistic representation that is also bandwidth-efficient. The goal is to make this technology more accessible, moving from lengthy professional scans to quick 2-3 minute scans using a smartphone, producing the same high-quality avatars.
Zuckerberg introduces Quest 3 as the first mainstream mixed reality device, costing $500. He highlights its superior mixed reality capabilities compared to Quest Pro, attributing it to improved cameras, sensors, and a next-generation Qualcomm chipset. Quest 3 also offers better VR experiences, a thinner design, and features like hand tracking for intuitive interaction without controllers.
The conversation shifts to the broader vision of the metaverse, where digital objects and people (holograms) will seamlessly integrate with the physical world. Zuckerberg envisions a future where the 'real world' is a combination of physical and digital elements. He suggests many physical objects could be enhanced as interactive holograms and that photorealistic avatars will bridge the gap between physical and digital interactions.
Zuckerberg and Fridman explore the psychological impact of photorealistic avatars, questioning whether people will prefer realism or more expressive, customized versions of themselves. They discuss the potential for blending realistic avatars with cartoonish backgrounds or other expressive avatars, and the fascinating questions this raises about identity within the metaverse, including the ability to represent an 'ideal' self.
Zuckerberg discusses the development of AI personas, including a general Meta AI assistant and more specialized AIs for business interactions and entertainment. He highlights the potential for AIs to facilitate social connections within group chats, enhance gaming experiences, and allow creators to scale their interactions with communities. He notes the challenge of ensuring AI personas embodying real creators accurately reflect their desired representation.
Mark Zuckerberg expresses satisfaction with the positive reception and widespread adoption of the open-sourced Llama 2 model, emphasizing its value as infrastructure for developers. He confirms that Meta is working on a successor, Llama 3, with the hope that it can also be open-sourced after rigorous safety assessments. This transparent approach aims to foster a collaborative learning environment for AI development.
Fridman reiterates his astonishment at the feeling of presence, forgetting that Zuckerberg is not physically there. He ponders how the ability to instantly have intimate, one-on-one conversations with anyone will profoundly change civilization. Zuckerberg emphasizes that the metaverse aims to provide the social and psychological benefits of physical presence by 'shortcutting the laws of physics,' creating a uniquely human and social computing platform.