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Cult deprogrammer Rick Alan Ross answers frequently asked questions about cults, including what defines a cult, how they recruit members, whether certain groups are considered cults, and how to help someone leave a cult.

Highlights

What are the signs of being in a cult?
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Signs of being in a cult include social isolation, being cut off from family and old friends, inability to ask critical questions about the leader or group behavior, a feeling of being wrong if one leaves, and a lack of checks and balances on the leader's power or transparency.

What makes a cult a cult?
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Three core characteristics define a destructive cult: an absolute totalitarian leader who is an object of worship, the leader's use of coercive persuasion, and the leader's exploitation and harm of followers. Not all cults are religious; examples include drug rehabilitation communities and even countries like North Korea. Family units can also function as cults under a dominant figure. A cult only needs one follower, so an abusive relationship can mirror a cult dynamic.

Why do cults believe the end is near?
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Cult leaders use doomsday prophecies as a leverage point, telling followers that safety is only found within their group. This is a coercive persuasion technique to keep members dedicated, as seen with David Koresh and the Waco Davidians.

How are cults different from religion?
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Religious organizations typically have democratic governance, checks and balances, transparency, and accountability. Unlike cults, leaving a religion does not imply turning against God. While some religions may have originated from charismatic leaders, they evolve to broader governance. Cult leaders, like con artists, are often malignant narcissists who know they are manipulating people but believe their actions are justified.

Do cults have a good online presence?
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Major cults extensively use online platforms like YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook, optimizing their presence to indoctrinate people without ever meeting the leader. An example is the 'TikTok cult,' which exploited dancers for content and money.

How do cult leaders convince people they are powerful?
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Cult leaders isolate followers from outside perspectives, creating an echo chamber where questioning is suppressed. They often possess malignant narcissistic personalities, making them experts at exploiting vulnerabilities.

Do cults recruit based on appearance or general well-being?
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Cults generally seek healthy, relatively young individuals who can work for the group and produce, rather than focusing on physical appearance for other reasons.

Do all cults get weird about sex?
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While not all cults involve sexual exploitation (some demand celibacy), sex can be a form of power and control. Leaders like Charlie Manson and David Koresh used sex to dominate members, illustrating that it's often more about power than gratification.

Is there a cult that isn't problematic?
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Arco Sante, an experimental city community founded by architect Paolo Soleri, is presented as an example of a benign cult. It was personality-driven but caused no harm, and Soleri left his legacy to a foundation to continue his vision.

Can Trumpism or QAnon be considered cults?
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Trumpism is considered a political faction, not a cult, as Trump's followers booed him and he adapted his views. QAnon, however, exhibits cult-like characteristics due to its anonymous leadership and the embedded online behavior of its believers.

Is Scientology a cult?
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Scientology fits the profile of a destructive cult due to its control mechanisms, such as training and supervision, information gathering on members, and policies like 'disconnection' from 'suppressive persons.' L. Ron Hubbard created a model of control that has been emulated by other cult leaders.

Why is America susceptible to cults?
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America's susceptibility to cults is linked to the First Amendment's protection of religion, which groups claiming religious status can exploit for tax exemptions and minimal accountability, as famously stated by L. Ron Hubbard about making money by starting a religion.

What's the craziest cult you've ever heard about?
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Marshall Applewhite's Heaven's Gate is cited as an extreme example. Applewhite convinced followers he was an extraterrestrial, demanding celibacy and castration. The group committed mass suicide by his command, believing they would ascend to a kingdom beyond Earth.

How to help a loved one in a cult?
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When someone is in a cult, avoid criticism or arguments, as the group may encourage them to cut ties. Instead, be a good listener and maintain communication. An intervention may be necessary later, but initially, gather information about the group and leader.

How does cult deprogramming work?
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Deprogramming typically starts as a surprise intervention, where the individual is cut off from the group (no electronics, no contact with members). There are four blocks of conversation: understanding destructive cults, identifying coercive persuasion, revealing hidden information about the group, and presenting research on the group's history, finances, and legal issues. About 70% of individuals choose to leave or take a break after such an intervention.

How do cults use Airbnbs or online streaming?
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Cult leaders like Allegro Bishop ('Carbon Nation') use Airbnbs to create temporary cult compounds in isolated locations, recruiting followers online. Amy Carlson ('Mother God') leveraged social media and streaming to gain followers and wealth, with her inner circle facing abuse while online followers provided financial support.

Can astrology be a gateway to cults?
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Some cults, like the Kabbalah Center, use astrology deceptively to influence people. They gather personal information to craft seemingly personalized readings, making individuals feel a cosmic connection. In reality, cults use generic astrological statements and acquired secrets as a mechanism of control to dictate behavior and destiny.

Why do people fall for MLM schemes and cults in 2024?
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People don't consciously join cults; they join movements they believe are good. MLM schemes, like Amway, share similarities with cults in their use of coercive persuasion and influence techniques to exploit participants for financial gain. The 'dream is the scheme,' primarily benefiting those at the top, not the recruits.

Are certain people susceptible to cults?
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Anyone can fall victim to predatory cults, regardless of intelligence or education. During times of distress or unhappiness, individuals are more vulnerable to 'bait and switch' schemes where what they think they're getting into is not the reality. Even highly educated professionals can be drawn into destructive cults.

Do cults always end in violence?
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No, most cults do not end in violence; a small minority do. Often, leaders continue to profit from low-cost labor and donations. However, the most destructive and violent cults are the ones that receive media attention, like Jim Jones's Peoples Temple or Paul McKenzie's Good News International Church.

Explain NXIVM briefly.
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NXIVM began as a self-help company, but under Keith Raniere, it devolved into a system to exploit women. Raniere created a cult within the cult, 'DOS,' where women were branded and treated as sex slaves. Raniere used confessions gathered during training to leverage control over thousands of followers, ultimately leading to his life imprisonment.

Can Bikram Yoga be a cult?
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Bikram Yoga, while an exercise practice, became known as a cult because its founder, Bikram Choudhury, maintained complete control and used coercive persuasion to exploit and sexually abuse women within the group.

Does loneliness or poverty make people vulnerable to cults?
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Loneliness, similar to poverty, can make people vulnerable. The Twin Flames Universe, for example, manipulates and exploits lonely individuals by promising to find their 'twin flame,' leading to extreme actions like gender transitions, causing devastation to families.

Who are the Moonies?
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The 'Moonies' are followers of Reverend Sun Myung Moon, who founded the Unification Church. Moon, who claimed to be the Messiah, built a vast financial empire including media and fishing fleets, using dedicated members as labor. He also officiated mass weddings where individuals were matched by him.

Can people born or raised in cults be deprogrammed?
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Deprogramming individuals born into or raised in cults is difficult but possible. Children in cults are often horribly abused, as their parents are also under the overwhelming control of the cult. Examples include Paul McKenzie, who led over 200 children to their deaths through fasting, and Jim Jones, who orchestrated a mass suicide. Many cults prohibit medical care for children, leaving them vulnerable to the whims of cult leaders.

Is involuntary deprogramming legal?
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Involuntary deprogramming is only legal for minor children under the supervision of a custodial parent or guardian. While it has been done with adults in extreme cases, courts have ruled against it. The speaker himself ceased participating in involuntary deprogramming efforts for adults in 1990.

Final advice on cults.
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If concerned about a group, be cautious, question what you're told, and research. If a loved one is in a cult, maintain open communication, show your care, and use critical thinking and research to protect yourself.

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