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Ann Harrison, Dean of the Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley, welcomes attendees to the Dean's Speaker Series, presented in collaboration with the 'Becoming a Changemaker' course. Alex Budak, lecturer and director of the Berkeley Haas Global Access Program, introduces Professor Muhammad Yunus, emphasizing his role as the founder of Grameen Bank and the father of microcredit and social business. Budak praises Yunus as an embodiment of the Berkeley Haas principle of 'beyond yourself' and highlights his dedication to serving the marginalized.
Professor Yunus thanks the hosts and begins by stating that the pandemic has revealed fundamental weaknesses in existing systems. He observes that many governments and businesses are eager to return to pre-pandemic conditions, but questions whether this is a desirable goal. He argues that the pre-pandemic world was a 'terrible world,' leading to disasters like global warming and extreme wealth concentration, and that the pandemic offers a crucial opportunity to re-evaluate and redesign our approaches.
Yunus identifies three critical issues with the pre-pandemic world: global warming, extreme wealth concentration, and the threat of artificial intelligence making humans 'surplus.' He describes global warming as an existential threat, where young people accuse previous generations of stealing their future. He condemns wealth concentration as a 'mockery of a system' that funnels resources to the top 1%. He warns against a future where AI renders humans irrelevant, leading to a loss of purpose and creativity.
Yunus proposes a new vision for the world: three zeros. These are zero net carbon emissions, zero wealth concentration, and zero unemployment. He stresses that achieving these goals requires bold, even 'outrageously bold,' decisions, moving beyond incremental changes. He suggests that designing systems for shared wealth and meaningful human participation is achievable, much like designing software, but requires individuals and institutions to step out of their comfort zones.
Responding to a question about how individuals and business leaders can initiate change, Yunus emphasizes the power of personal choices. He encourages individuals to hold banks and companies accountable for their environmental and social impact and to support ethical businesses through their purchasing decisions. He advocates for redesigning thinking processes, particularly within academic institutions, to challenge the existing economic models that prioritize self-interest and profit maximization over shared well-being. He proposes two types of businesses: those that make money and those that solve problems (social businesses).
Yunus addresses the young generation directly, calling them the 'most powerful generation in human history' due to their access to technology. He urges them to recognize and utilize this power to change the world. Using the metaphor of Aladdin's lamp, he tells them that they are the lamp and the genie, possessing the inherent capacity to bring about transformative change. He states that just one person is enough to change the world.
Jerry Dodson asks Yunus to elaborate on helping the poor out of poverty. Yunus explains that poverty is not the fault of the poor but a consequence of flawed systems. He critiques economists for classifying a large portion of the population as the 'informal sector,' thereby ignoring their entrepreneurial potential. He suggests renaming them the 'micro-entrepreneurial sector' and creating dedicated financial systems, like the Grameen Bank model, to support them. He highlights the success of Grameen America in the US, providing loans to poor women with high repayment rates, demonstrating the viability of such systems.
Yunus extends the concept of social business to global issues like vaccine distribution. He questions why pharmaceutical companies should profit from life-saving vaccines, leading to unequal access between rich and poor countries. He proposes creating social business pharmaceutical companies whose primary goal is to provide affordable vaccines to everyone, rather than maximizing profit. He advocates for making vaccines patent-free and a global common good, citing the polio vaccine as a historical precedent, and reveals efforts to encourage the UN to pass such a resolution.
Shannon asks for advice on leading change during challenging times like COVID-19, especially when people are dealing with fear and grief. Yunus reiterates that the pre-pandemic era was not a 'good time' but a trajectory towards disaster. He uses the analogy of a party to describe how humanity was oblivious to impending catastrophes like climate change. He asserts that the pandemic has served as a wake-up call, forcing us to confront reality. He emphasizes the need to 'undo everything we did' and build new roads to new destinations, specifically referring back to his 'three zeros' vision. He criticizes 'tinkering' and stresses the importance of making bold decisions.
Ananya asks about Yunus's personal experience with 'failing forward' and resilience. He advises starting with 'small baby steps' rather than being overwhelmed by the magnitude of a problem. He recounts his early efforts to help individuals in a village avoid loan sharks, which gradually led to the founding of Grameen Bank. He explains that he didn't set out to create a banking system but simply aimed to be helpful to one or two people. He learned by doing, iteratively adapting his approach, which eventually resulted in a system that reversed conventional banking practices. He concludes by stating that solving individual, 'atomistic' problems can be scaled up to address larger, 'giant' problems.