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The host then asks for a reading about her visit with her daughter, drawing the Knight of Pentacles. Melanie interprets this as staying calm and firm, but also not keeping one's guard up. Finally, for the development of her podcast, the host draws 'The Moon'. The readers interpret this as bringing light and publicity to her work, appealing to people's mysteries and subconscious, and foreshadowing significant, perhaps fateful, events related to her podcast.
The host introduces the topic of exploring the tarot scene in Amsterdam. They highlight interviews with three tarot readers: Trippy and Melanie from the Embassy of the Free Mind, a hermetic library, and Julia Castana from Black Moon Botanica, an esoteric shop. The host also mentions a Patreon bonus content showcasing unique tarot decks at Fabula Rosa.
Julia Castana discusses her intuitive and empathic approach to tarot, often combining it with astrology. She explains how astrology can deepen the understanding of tarot cards, providing examples like interpreting the 'Sun' card when a person isn't in a relationship, or the 'Devil' card in conjunction with Capricorn, offering a spiritual rather than purely material interpretation.
Melanie describes her Jungian-influenced tarot readings, focusing on archetypes such as the 'great mother' and how symbolism in the cards relates to primal messages. She also integrates birth charts into longer sessions to provide deeper insights into a client's tools and challenges, emphasizing the conversational nature of her readings.
Trippy shares her early exposure to tarot and astrology through her mother and a family friend. She recounts a significant experience at age 13 where she 'instinctively' acquired an Osho Zen Tarot deck and related spiritual books, feeling a profound connection to the material. She highlights how tarot became a constant communication with spirit for her.
Melanie discusses her familiarity with tarot from childhood, starting with a Rider-Waite style deck. She explains her transition to the standard Rider-Waite Smith deck during her astrology studies, appreciating its neutrality and widespread recognition, and using both large and small formats in her readings.
Julia observes a distinct difference in client questions between Italy and Amsterdam. Italian clients often focus on love, while Amsterdam clients frequently inquire about career and burnout. She notes that Amsterdam clients are generally open-minded and curious about spiritual practices, often coming to tarot to try it out rather than as a strict belief.
Julia, Melanie, and Trippy discuss Amsterdam's unique openness to tarot and esoteric practices. Melanie mentions a network of dedicated practitioners and the serious approach taken within this community. They also highlight the role of institutions like the Embassy of the Free Mind in providing credibility and making these practices accessible to a wide range of people, from those seeking entertainment to business professionals.
Melanie and Trippy conduct a live reading for the host. The host draws the 'Devil' card, which they interpret as the ego or persona. They discuss accepting this aspect of self without destroying it, seeing it as a character to play. Trippy draws the Two of Pentacles, Nine of Cups, and The Emperor, interpreting them as being at ease, having much love to give but holding back, and being grounded.