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Governor JB Pritzker discusses Operation Midway Blitz, where ICE has deployed around 300 agents to Chicago and its suburbs. He notes that the raids are led by Gregory Bovino, who also spearheaded the controversial raids in Los Angeles, and that the administration's goal is to provoke unrest to justify bringing in the National Guard. Pritzker explains that Illinois is prepared with legal teams to monitor and challenge ICE's actions, particularly concerning administrative warrants versus judicial warrants.
Pritzker explains the difference between administrative warrants, which ICE agents can issue without judicial oversight, and judicial warrants, which Illinois law enforcement cooperates with for violent criminals. He criticizes the Trump administration's use of administrative warrants and its lack of coordination with state authorities, contrasting it with Biden's administration where there was more communication and a focus on judicial warrants for serious crimes. Pritzker suggests that federal actions are not aimed at reducing crime but at creating a hostile environment.
Stewart and Pritzker discuss the federal government's cuts to crime prevention programs, which disproportionately affect 'blue cities' like Chicago. Pritzker argues that these cuts, coupled with the move to militarize law enforcement, undermine effective crime-fighting strategies. He highlights Illinois's investment in community violence intervention programs, peacekeepers, and social services like early childhood education, which have successfully reduced homicide rates. He advocates for increased funding for federal agencies like the ATF and FBI, rather than military intervention.
Pritzker explains Illinois's decision to eliminate cash bail, arguing that it disproportionately affects low-income individuals and allows wealthy, violent criminals to buy their freedom. He clarifies that judges now determine detention based on whether an individual poses a danger to the community. While he acknowledges that mistakes can be made, he asserts that the new system is more effective at keeping dangerous individuals incarcerated and notes that appearance rates for trials have remained consistent.
Pritzker links the entrenched poverty and high crime rates in certain urban areas to decades of 'massive disinvestment.' He champions strong state-funded social programs, particularly early childhood education, as crucial for breaking cycles of poverty and reducing crime. Stewart questions the lack of collective action among Democratic governors against federal policies, suggesting it might be due to individual political ambitions. Pritzker expresses frustration with the lack of unified Democratic opposition, emphasizing the need for governors to take a strong stand, much like he has done by making Illinois a sanctuary for reproductive rights.
Pritzker contrasts the current political landscape with earlier times, lamenting the lack of independent Republicans willing to challenge party lines. He draws a parallel to North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford, who integrated schools despite unpopularity. Pritzker credits this moment as a time for elected officials to be 'upstanders' rather than collaborators or bystanders. He notes that Democratic governors do communicate and share ideas, especially concerning issues like the Great Lakes, but forming a unified 'council' to coerce the federal government is challenging given their individual state responsibilities and the mechanisms by which federal funds are collected and withheld.
Stewart and Pritzker discuss the dangerous precedent set by the Trump administration's use of executive power and vindictiveness, warning that such tactics could be used by future non-Republican leaders. They question the Supreme Court's role in allowing such broad executive authority and the selective application of constitutional amendments. The conversation concludes with a call for more creative and collective action among governors to uphold democratic principles and address genuine problems, rather than engaging in performative politics.