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The hosts introduce the session, where they will interview the spirit of Ali Khamenei. Abby describes Khamenei as deeply frustrated and still attempting to exert control, even in the afterlife. Eric, acting as a protector, metaphorically places Khamenei in a 'glass jar' to contain his negative energy, highlighting his continued dictatorial tendencies and inability to accept his lack of power.
When asked about pursuing nuclear weapons, Khamenei, now calmer, proudly affirms he was. He believed he was helping his people and presenting a leader of substance. He clarifies his intention regarding Israel was to 'become Israel,' meaning to take over the land and its people, driven by a desire to retain control over what he saw as politically and magically significant land.
Khamenei's perspective on using a nuclear bomb is that it was for 'protection' and to 'gain self-righteous beliefs.' Eric intervenes, stating that Khamenei would indeed have used a bomb and believed he possessed them. However, it's revealed that his advisors misled him, making him think the nuclear program was further along and active, out of fear of his demands.
Khamenei attributes US support for Israel to mass powers wanting to overtake Iran's cities, future prosperity, oil, minerals, and the land's 'magical' religious significance. He believes his actions were justified, seeing himself as a true republic leader fighting against unjust dictators and criminals, dismissing the 32,000 protesters killed as 'demonstrators of crime'.
Khamenei views all potential alternative leaders, including the exiled crown prince Reza Pahlavi and the former Shah, as corrupt. He demonstrates deep anger and distrust towards anyone not aligned with him. When confronted about his past statement calling women 'vermin,' he affirms this view, showing his continued misogynistic beliefs.
Eric clarifies that Khamenei's perspective was severely 'off,' stemming from mental issues and an intense, unwavering belief in his cause, akin to historical figures like Hitler. Despite his anger, his final earthly moments were filled with pride. Upon crossing over, he was greeted by his mother, who gently told him to 'behave' so they could be together in heaven, highlighting a brief moment of emotional vulnerability.
Currently, Khamenei remains angry and confused, unable to accept his lack of power in the afterlife. He keeps screaming at his former 'cabinet' who cannot hear him. Eric suggests that this inability to exert control is slowly making him emotional, which is a positive step towards self-realization and potentially moving towards the 'light,' though he is 'not there yet'.