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Jeffrey Lichtman discusses his involvement in El Chapo's case, mentioning strategic discussions and regular visits since February. He highlights the challenges in communication due to the language barrier and the use of an interpreter.
Lichtman describes El Chapo's agitated state due to his isolated confinement since January, with minimal contact with family or other inmates, and limited communication with guards due to the language barrier. He characterizes El Chapo's detention conditions as exceptionally harsh, even compared to those of terrorists.
Lichtman explains the difficulties in having face-to-face discussions with El Chapo and reviews the high-profile nature of the case. He emphasizes the need to feel a connection with the client and focusing on how the client treats him.
Lichtman discusses why he chose to represent El Chapo, emphasizing it as a humongous challenge given the media and public's already negative perception. He asserts his role is to ensure El Chapo's constitutional rights are protected and that everyone deserves a proper defense.
Lichtman insists on the presumption of innocence for El Chapo, noting that he hasn't been convicted of anything in America. He finds El Chapo to be intelligent, charming, and well-loved by his family, which gives another perspective beyond media portrayals.
Lichtman addresses the financial complexities of taking on the case, including government scrutiny of funds and the potential for asset seizure. He justifies his fees and the need to cover expenses, pushing back against criticisms that he should work for free.
Lichtman reflects on his past high-profile case involving John Gotti Jr., highlighting the hard work, dedication, and strategic thinking required to win seemingly impossible cases. He stresses the need to fully immerse oneself in the details and evidence.
Lichtman explains his role as a defense lawyer, focusing on disproving the government's case rather than seeking the absolute truth. He emphasizes the importance of confronting the allegations and evidence presented.
Lichtman dismisses the significance of the Sean Penn interview as potential evidence, questioning the authenticity and reliability of the information. He states he has not yet seen the evidence against his client, and emphasizes the seriousness of the charges against El Chapo.
Lichtman notes Guzmán remains optimistic about his case and his future, especially considering the potential for a life-sentence. He shares a great personal connection with Guzmán as he describes his personality, intelligence, and character, which differs from much of his wider portrayal.
Lichtman explains it might be difficult for the public to ignore Guzmán's history in Mexico, but ultimately those judgements do not matter in the American court of law. He emphasizes the American Justice System more thoroughly and less corrupt than the Mexican System.
Lichtman emphasizes that he is not afraid of the current case, rather he is vigilant. And has more fears of the government, recounting experiences of being investigated, and attempts being made to be entrapped. Lichtman also said his children would finally be able to see him at trial for the first time.
Ultimately a loss in April would mean a life-sentence for Guzmán, Lichtman feels confident he has what it takes to defy all previous odds. And notes that he strives to teach his children to stick up for a fair trial and constitution, despite public opinions. And to always fight for the underdog.
Although Lichtman does not regret taking any of his cases, including the Guzmán case, he has had some past remorse. To teach his children justice is most important and describes good v. evil as following constitutional rights.